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Sven Roeder 2:45 Fri Jan 9
Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

First private firm to manage an NHS hospital says it wants to withdraw from its contract.
Could all the ideological gurus please line up to tell us how this is someone else's fault.

gph 2:30 Sun Jan 11
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

Come on, I know you've just appeared on another thread - justify your claims, or admit you can't

gph 10:46 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

So, where exactly in that post did I say that YOU SAID there was only one bidder?

It's only two lines. You should be able to spot it.

Hermit Road 10:44 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

You're a strange and bitter man. Very odd.

gph 10:25 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

So, where exactly in that post did I say you said there was only one bidder?

Do you think you're the only source of information in the Universe?

You're so up yourself I can see why you're so keen to defend Jesus - you think of him as your loyal lieutenant...

Hermit Road 5:35 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

gph 3:19 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital
Post the the offending post, then?

Here's the reason you won't - it doesn't exist."


It would be the one that led you to post this;



"gph 8:17 Fri Jan 9
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital
So what was the point of the year-long process assessing Circle when they were the only remaining bidder, Hermit?"

Sniper 3:32 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

Thing is this us just one hospital. Privatisation of public services is being snuck in via the back door in so many different ways. The NHS is/was more than just hospitals. Look at how many primary care trusts are now run by Sirona care for example. This never makes the news. The same with schools becoming academies and being run like businesses where the importance if education is nowhere near the most important thing

gph 3:19 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

Post the the offending post, then?

Here's the reason you won't - it doesn't exist.

Hermit Road 3:17 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

That isn't the post that led to you making up something I said, that was the post putting you straight.

gph 3:11 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

Your post in full:

"gph 8:17 Fri Jan 9
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital
So what was the point of the year-long process assessing Circle when they were the only remaining bidder, Hermit?"

I didn't say they were the only bidder"

If you thought they were the only bidder, this is an entirely pointless post, isn't it?

Hermit Road 2:53 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

Gph,

You seem to be working yourself up into a bit of a state by making up something I said and addressing that, rather than responding to what I actually said.

Al Jolson 2:46 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

The Hinchingbrooke is my local hospital and must admit it is very clean and efficient

I'd be happy to pay a premium on my council tax / to keep it that way too. only had to use it once but just hope it's still open if I ever need to again.

gph 2:21 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

Why the fuck did you post as if you were unaware that Circle were the sole bidder for the last year of the process if you were aware?

Accusing me of intellectual gymnastics is no way of getting out of this - an explanation is needed

Hermit Road 2:16 Sat Jan 10
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The Kronic 12:19 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital


That is quite funny but to be fair, hospitals get into bigger messes run by the public sector and, as Infidel said, plenty of the NHS is already run by private companies so what is it that makes people piss their knickers about other parts of the NHS being run by private companies too?

Hermit Road 2:14 Sat Jan 10
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gph 2:08 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

Good rescue, excellent self-serving presumption. You must feel really good about yourself after those intellectual gymnastics.

The Kronic 12:19 Sat Jan 10
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Infidel 2:45 Sat Jan 10

I would love to hear from one of the resident Lefties on here a cogent argument against allowing private contractors to run hospitals.

____________

How about this thread topic for a start you fucking moron.
Regards, non resident lefty.

Ditcher 11:58 Sat Jan 10
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Justin R 11:35 Sat Jan 10

, 11:58 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

Which company will next try to run a NHS hospital?

Current private hospitals run on a pattern which enables them to control their patient flow so there is no comparison possible with a NHS hospital.

The NHS could not provide the services it does without the use of outsiders and it's shown to be working. The outsourcing of specific procedures such a s scanning, hip and knee replacements, physio services etc. is showing to be both cost effective and beneficial to patients.

I am sure that most companies looking at the NHS would be willing to take on the regular work content tasks but leave alone the A&E.

Cliff Richard 11:51 Sat Jan 10
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Just like all the other privatised public services, when the emphasis is switched to profit, the service provided goes into decline. The NHS needs a cash injection, but from the tax payer, not private companies.

Justin R 11:35 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

Poor old Surface, run out of coherent arguments again and has resorted to pedantry as per.

inconsistant fc 3:19 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

If paying private companies to run the NHS helps with the "supply and demand" issue than fine but this case suggests that Circle have got basically nowhere with it.

If they have ploughed their own money into it then they deserve to fail, as it the capitalist principal but the state should not be expected to foot any bill as a result of Circle's bad judgement.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 3:16 Sat Jan 10
Re: Circle to withdraw from their contract to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital

It's too late to argue and your correct use of 'moot' has left me in such a state of relieved admiration that I am in danger of voting Green.

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